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Am i doing something wrong?...
By fongpee1 on 09-06-2008 9:02 PM

 I have just been getting obliterated the last 2 weeks and I can't seem to catch a break.  My officialpokerranking.com stats and sharkscope.com stats don't suck(at least I don't think so) -- screenname is fongpee1 on stars. 

It seems that whenever I am in a big tournament in a critical spot, I will always get sucked out on, or I can't win a coin flip.  I have counted the number of spots that I have been very deep and I just meet a painful demise everytime.  Earlier today I finished 10th out of 2260 in one of the 10k guaranteed turbo events.  I lost all in with 77 when he instacalled preflop and flop a Q with QJ.  That seems standard, but I am 0-15 in critical situations. 

Not only that, but I seem to run particularly bad when I run bad.  I'll put my money in with AA vs KK vs 88 only to see KK turn a set.  These situations happen over and over.  Today I counted the number of disgusting beats...AK vs A5 he calls my big stack all in and rivers a 5 and I bust right before the money...AK vs K3 all in he turns a 3...JJ vs A3 all in he flops an A.  

Maybe I just need to weather the storm, but I really feel that I need to get this out, because I feel that I'm a much better player than this and I just can't seem to burst out and get that first big win. 

 
 
 

Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By Son of 51 LIMA on 09-07-2008 10:52 AM

I've felt this way before.

But you know there is no doom switch.  You've had times, I'm sure, where ran good and couldn't lose a race.  Like when you took first in 180's three days in a row. (Yes, I looked up your stats, no I'm not a stalker.)

I suggest you take a small break.  You probably play every day, so take a couple days off.  After a couple days, you'll be itching to play because you enjoy it.  Right now, playing poker probably feels like a chore. 

Also, play lower stakes (like 180 / $4.40's ) for a week or so.  If your current steak of bad luck continues at those stakes, you can just laugh at your incredible streak of bad beats until your results even out.  Eventually, your confidence in the fairness of the world will return and you'll be back in stride.

The worst thing you can do for your bankroll is to play a lot of tournaments while you are pissed off and you feel like you are cursed.


Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By fongpee1 on 09-07-2008 6:24 PM

im deep in another tourney right now...hope i can catch a break Smile

Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By fongpee1 on 09-08-2008 1:36 AM

 ok this is getting really annoying...when i run bad i run BAD.  I had four 4-1 advantages beaten, lost 6 coin flips in a row...and the beats are continuing to pile up...what???


Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By calhoun137 on 09-08-2008 10:53 PM

If you are absolutely sure that you are making the best possible descisions at all times and getting very unlucky, then of course there is nothing you can do about it except take a break for a few days like the other guy said to clear your head perhaps.


I recommend saving your hand histories for the next MTT you play, and if you lose to a suckout, go through the whole tourney very carefully, mabye even cut paste the hands you were involved in into another file, and then analyze every action on every street and try to see where you could have saved chips and where you could have gained them, what did you do that you liked, what did you do wrong. what didnt you do that you should have, what general lessons can you learn, ect... keep in mind that if you had had extra chips on that last hand, you might have been able to come back.

the absolute worst possible reaction to a bad beat is to go on tilt, you have to be able to shrug it off, make sure when you go through your hand histories to look for places where you are tilting, or for whatever reason not playing your top game.

you cant control probability, so instead of dwelling on a streak of bad luck, focus on improving your game.  You might even discover something you are doing fundamentally wrong and look back at this period of time one day and think how bad you were =)


btw check out the bad beat i just posted, lol


Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By acelion on 09-08-2008 11:48 PM

 mate i absolutely hear u. i often find myself thinking how the hell did that happen or how did they do that. u will do ur head in trying to figure it out. next time u sit at stars count how many times the best hand preflop wins (very little).

in the nightly 70k yesterday, 70 people to go blinds at 1000 and 2000 guy second to act sitting b4 me decides to raise to 15000  with jk offsuit i reraise him allin with aa he calls instantly wins and goes to chip leader while i am seriously debating hurting myself.

i have another friend dannygreen1 who had that many bad beats at stars he requested a printout of his last 100 tourneys detailing how many times he went in behind (only 6). 94 of his last 100 tourneys he has been in front when he put his chips in only to lose and 36 times to runner runner.

completely random apparently but i reckon there are fifteen aces in their decks and twice as many other picture cards


Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By fongpee1 on 09-09-2008 4:05 AM

to calhoun: i am sure 90% of the time I am putting it in good and making the right decision.  I have played poker long enough to be able to put the beats/bad luck past me...to a certain extent.  There comes a time where you just start pulling your hair out and wonder why this is happening to you...I shouldn't put all my money in with AA vs KK vs QQ and expect to lose...and actually LOSE...or put it in AA vs Q5 vs TT and lose(many more where these came from).  My tourney stats are usually pretty good:
-14-18% flops seen
-80-90% showdowns won

The only time I came close to a big score last week was when I ran hot going to the final table and i had 15 of 15 showdowns won...does it require me to run THAT hot to get a win?

I'm just venting here because I really don't know what to do besides take a break right now...but it just seems when I start getting slammed it goes on for the rest of the day...and it really stings.

Re:Am i doing something wrong?... In reply to
By Vagitarian on 09-09-2008 7:38 PM

Play $4.40s and get this same old shit, running perfects imagine that, i knew i was cooked when the turn hit. Fuck stars

PokerStars Game #20282822430: Tournament #107262266, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/09/09 20:32:47 ET
Table '107262266 12' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: GroovyFish (2755 in chips)
Seat 2: StylesPaul (9490 in chips)
Seat 3: a3smith (6225 in chips)
Seat 4: iluv2lose (1895 in chips)
Seat 5: maciej2kk (7150 in chips)
Seat 6: stuart45 (1330 in chips)
Seat 7: kanataholdem (5395 in chips)
Seat 8: Himbourg (1030 in chips)
Seat 9: boshammerjay (1280 in chips)
stuart45: posts small blind 50
kanataholdem: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Himbourg [Ah As]
Himbourg: raises 200 to 300
boshammerjay: raises 980 to 1280 and is all-in
GroovyFish: folds
StylesPaul: folds
a3smith: folds
iluv2lose: folds
maciej2kk: folds
stuart45: folds
kanataholdem: folds
Himbourg: calls 730 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (250) returned to boshammerjay
*** FLOP *** [6h 3s 3d]
*** TURN *** [6h 3s 3d] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [6h 3s 3d 5d] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Himbourg: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
boshammerjay: shows [Td Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
boshammerjay collected 2210 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2210 | Rake 0
Board [6h 3s 3d 5d 8d]
Seat 1: GroovyFish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: StylesPaul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: a3smith folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: iluv2lose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: maciej2kk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: stuart45 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: kanataholdem (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Himbourg showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 9: boshammerjay showed [Td Ad] and won (2210) with a flush, Ace high

 
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